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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 7:11 am

Are the French sold

Magikons with Italian rules too? If so, I'll start to haunt the boardgaming auction of eBay.fr too

Anyway, I can emend the list of the 'most wanted' RPG books in Italy with Vampire the Masquerade. A nice copy of that fetches at the moment between 90 and 100 euros

PS: great site you are referring to. I have already bookmarked it. And I must say it seems to be some interest in Italy for French RPGs: I have suggested a translation of Polaris third edition (when it will be out of course) and some fans have expressed interest for the game and high regard for graphics and artwork.

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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 7:53 am

AFAIK, within the french production a worth item should be the first original edition of "in nomine"...

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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:53 am

Alexander1968 wrote:Are the French sold Magikons with Italian rules too? If so, I'll start to haunt the boardgaming auction of eBay.fr too

Magikon have italian rules as well. French and Italian. The last one sold for a lot of money in France. 144â‚¬

http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 0217860219

I mentionned it on ToT in the french section.

There some excellent french RPG but they are often too "sophisticated" to have a good international impact. This is one of main problems of french RPG.

For In nomine satanis, it is very irregular. Sometimes the first edition could sold for 130â‚¬ and sometimes for 15â‚¬. In France there is no consistency in market price on ebay. Some of first expansions (like Berserker or Intervention divine) sold for around 120â‚¬ few weeks ago and now they don't go for more than 20-25â‚¬, when they sold!

The rarest version of In nomine is the polish one. She has been forbidden by authority in Poland, and only a few copies still exist.

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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 1:28 pm

lokiwookie wrote:

Magikon have italian rules as well. French and Italian. The last one sold for a lot of money in France. 144â‚¬

** expired/removed eBay auction **

I mentionned it on ToT in the french section.

Ah. Well, at least I'm pleased for my lomg sight in detecting price trends

There some excellent french RPG but they are often too "sophisticated" to have a good international impact. This is one of main problems of french RPG.

Problem? The strong background of French games, not to mention excellent graphics and artwork, should be strong points! Sigh

For In nomine satanis, it is very irregular. Sometimes the first edition could sold for 130â‚¬ and sometimes for 15â‚¬. In France there is no consistency in market price on ebay. Some of first expansions (like Berserker or Intervention divine) sold for around 120â‚¬ few weeks ago and now they don't go for more than 20-25â‚¬, when they sold!
The rarest version of In nomine is the polish one. She has been forbidden by authority in Poland, and only a few copies still exist.

Tell us more! This is a story worthy to be told...

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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 1:30 pm

Aquelarre in Spanish seems to be hard to find here in the States. I want one.

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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:51 pm

serleran wrote:Aquelarre in Spanish seems to be hard to find here in the States. I want one.

I got my copy of Aquelarre (1st ed. and 2nd ed.) in France, in a lot with all supplement. You should try on ebay.fr or on ebay.es (not on .com) because most of sellers doesn't ship worldwide.

I found one:

** expired/removed eBay auction **

And Danza Macabra

** expired/removed eBay auction **

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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 8:08 pm

Alexander1968 wrote:Ah. Well, at least I'm pleased for my lomg sight in detecting price trends

Yes, but for someone who look after one copy it seems to be very hard to find it for less than 100â‚¬ nowadays. Are you still looking for it?

Alexander1968 wrote:
Problem? The strong background of French games, not to mention excellent graphics and artwork, should be strong points!

Sometimes... for some people, strangely... It should be strong points, it is true, but it is not always the case.
For artworks we have some excellent persons, like Florence Magnin (illustrator of Reve de Dragon and FÃ©erie). Oh FÃ©Ã©rie, another very hard to find French fantasy RPG of mid 80's with one of the rarest supplement in France, Le secret sous la montagne. I saw it only once on ebay... and I never saw it anywhere else. Noone on french forums has been able to confirm if it exists or not before I saw it on ebay (I bought it of course!)

Alexander1968 wrote:
lokiwookie wrote:
The rarest version of In nomine is the polish one. She has been forbidden by authority in Poland, and only a few copies still exist.

Tell us more! This is a story worthy to be told...

Poland is very godly and they saw this game, with this name "IN NOMINE SATANIS", "in the name of Satan", as a real profanity. So the book was immediatly removed from all game stores because of the potential danger it would brings! The DIABOLIC BOOK translated by In nomine Magnae Veritatis

I don't know many more but the only copy I saw of it was sold for a lot of money... And in France there is a lot of INS (In nomine satanis) collectors. Croc, the author/publisher, created, with the success of this game, the biggest french publishing enterprise in RPG, AsmodÃ©e (who traducts all official WotC D&D products).

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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:58 am

lokiwookie wrote:
Poland is very godly and they saw this game, with this name "IN NOMINE SATANIS", "in the name of Satan", as a real profanity. So the book was immediatly removed from all game stores because of the potential danger it would brings! The DIABOLIC BOOK translated by In nomine Magnae Veritatis
I don't know many more but the only copy I saw of it was sold for a lot of money... And in France there is a lot of INS (In nomine satanis) collectors. Croc, the author/publisher, created, with the success of this game, the biggest french publishing enterprise in RPG, AsmodÃ©e (who traducts all official WotC D&D products).

Hmmm... I remember an Italian publisher had talked with Asmodee in the 90s about a translation of INS/MV but I guessed they balked out considering the possible backlash. I played the game many years ago and I found it funny and deserving of a translation, but I must admit I'd never use the In Nomine Satanis name in a possible Italian edition: it would be a great magnet for controversy here (Italy is a Catholic country) and I'd never show it in my store because with the various young Yu Gi Oh players (and their parents) it would be a real suicide... I KNOW the game is tongue in cheek, but people not knowing it could react in a very hostile way... and when I saw an ad in CB about the game I got very, very diffident (yes, I'm Christian albeit not in the American sense!) knowing the French penchant

for provocation

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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:51 am

There was a discussion the other day on Dragonsfoot about the Hebrew Companion Modules (HCM1 & HCM2), which were released in Israel and are apparently extremely rare:

http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/modpage ... n/hcm.html

I actually never heard of these modules until recently. Does anyone here happen to have copies? I wonder what these are worth.

~Kat ^_^

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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:31 am

Katchoo wrote:There was a discussion the other day on Dragonsfoot about the Hebrew Companion Modules (HCM1 & HCM2), which were released in Israel and are apparently extremely rare:

http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/modpage ... n/hcm.html

I actually never heard of these modules until recently. Does anyone here happen to have copies? I wonder what these are worth.

~Kat ^_^

But they are simply Israeli edition of American games, not a true foreign product

Foreign for americans, by the way

, not for the Big and Happy European Family

ADDITION: I stand corrected :oops:

VERY intriguing, never thought to see D&D modules that were not translations of English language books. I guess they are worth a lot :!:

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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:53 pm

yes, sometimes foreign translations go for a lot of money... This one in France today... (but I am sure there is shilling activities behind)

** expired/removed eBay auction **

DL6/7 for 152â‚¬ (a translation of 2 modules in one)

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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:14 pm

55 bids? Wow!

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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:39 pm

serleran wrote:55 bids? Wow!

Ah.. but did you looks at the bidding history at all...

Brette:)

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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:02 am

No, I tend to not care about items that don't interest me. I simply looked at the number of bids.

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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:46 pm

Alexander1968 wrote:VERY intriguing, never thought to see D&D modules that were not translations of English language books. I guess they are worth a lot

Yeah, the fact that they never were printed in any other language than Hebrew is pretty interesting. From what I understand, they must be quite rare. Even Frank said that he was seeking these for years now. I'm so curious as to what they are worth.

I hope an auction pops up one of these days... it will be fun to watch.

~Kat ^_^

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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:24 pm

given my completist nature i`m very glad i decided to limit my frp collection to english language only or i`d have no house to put the first collection in.....from talking to him at a prior gencon i think blackdougal may have the hebrew modules, but i think it`s been a while since he posted here.

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:04 am

beasterbrook wrote:
Ah.. but did you looks at the bidding history at all...

Brette:)

yes shilling activities on all of these seller items... I contacted ebay about that but no answers...

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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:38 am

stratochamp wrote:given my completist nature i`m very glad i decided to limit my frp collection to english language only or i`d have no house to put the first collection in.....

That's the problem with my friend stratochamp. No collecting ambition.

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