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Post Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:05 am 
 

improvstone wrote:Can it support yet another change?


3.0 came in on a huge groundswell of renewed interest in fantasy; there's no way that will happen the same all over again. Is it too much to hope they'll adopt an old school appearance? The illustrations on the WotC page have the same old 3.0 sketchbook style, surely they'll update that somehow.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:14 am 
 

I hope 4th edition makes love to a d4.


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:16 am 
 

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3.0 came in on a huge groundswell of renewed interest in fantasy; there's no way that will happen the same all over again. Is it too much to hope they'll adopt an old school appearance? The illustrations on the WotC page have the same old 3.0 sketchbook style, surely they'll update that somehow.


I don't get the feeling that it will.  I have been watching the quality of websites being produced by the company currently rotting in hell and I am not impressed.  

I really would like to see some stats on gaming in the US and how much of a market is left.  After all the younger generation is focused on Warcraft ...


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:41 am 
 

improvstone wrote:the younger generation


Much as I would like to see more retro gaming, the kids really are the key to any real-life marketing strategy. Therefore new products are likely to grow from the minis game & anything else like it.

The new RuneQuest, T&T, & DCC still give hope that there's life remaining in the old stuff however. The boardgame Dragonlords even has a Frazetta-esque cover.

It's remotely possible that WotC will look at recent bands like Wolfmother or Muse & decide the kids really do want retro.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:49 pm 
 

improvstone wrote:I really would like to see some stats on gaming in the US and how much of a market is left.  After all the younger generation is focused on Warcraft ...

Enworld's main page has consolidated 4e threads and rumors.  According to that page, D&D 4e will have an online component available.

If the online parts of 4e do include character generation, maps, and a tabletop for gaming, then WotC is appealing to the WoW crowd.  If the number-crunching gets moved behind a GUI, then that makes D&D more like a MMORPG.

Time will tell . . .

  


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:38 pm 
 

August 16, 2007 (Renton, WA) -- Whether you storm a mad wizard's tower every week or haven't delved into a dungeon since you had a mullet and a mean pair of parachute pants, one thing is certain - millions of D&D players worldwide have anticipated the coming of 4th Edition for many years. Today, Wizards of the Coast confirms that the new edition will launch in May 2008 with the release of the D&D Player's Handbook. A pop culture icon, Dungeons & Dragons is the #1 tabletop roleplaying game in the world, and is revered by legions of gamers of all ages.

The 4th Edition Dungeons & Dragons game includes elements familiar to current D&D players, including illustrated rulebooks and pre-painted plastic miniatures. Also releasing next year will be new web-based tools and online community forums through the brand-new Dungeons & Dragons Insider (D&D Insider) digital offering. D&D Insider lowers the barriers of entry for new players while simultaneously offering the depth of play that appeals to veteran players.

The 4th Edition rules emphasize faster game play, offer exciting new character options, and reduce the amount of "prep time" needed to run the game. D&D Insider includes a character creator that lets players design and equip their D&D characters, dungeon- and adventure-building tools for Dungeon Masters, online magazine content, and a digital game table that lets you play 24/7 on the internet — the perfect option for anyone who can't find time to get together.

"We've been gathering player feedback for eight years," said Bill Slavicsek, R&D Director of Roleplaying and Miniatures Games at Wizards of the Coast. "Fourth Edition streamlines parts of the D&D game that are too complex, while enhancing the overall play experience. At its heart, it's still a tabletop game experience. However, D&D Insider makes it easier for players to create characters, run their games, and interact with the rest of the D&D community."

Wizards of the Coast will release two 4th Edition preview books in December and January — Wizards Presents: Classes and Races and Wizards Presents: Worlds and Monsters. The first live demos of 4th Edition will happen at the D&D Experience gaming convention in Washington D.C. in February 2008. The full scope of 4th Edition books, miniatures, and adventures will be available in the spring and summer of 2008.

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:55 pm 
 

otherworld wrote:The 4th Edition rules emphasize faster game play, offer exciting new character options, and reduce the amount of "prep time" needed to run the game.


Yep, that about sums up 3E.
Oh wait, is this 4E we're talking about? It's different........how?


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:12 pm 
 

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Yep, that about sums up 3E.
Oh wait, is this 4E we're talking about? It's different........how?


I am starting to read that statement as 4E is going to be more rules "light".  Anyone else feel the same way?

And man if that is the case all the hospitals around the world are going to be getting a huge influx of 3E fanboys, all having two broken legs.....  :P


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:26 pm 
 

24/7 online gaming? AHHH!!!!! doesn't that sorta.. kill the point of table top gaming? you know.. the sitting around eating junk food and talking about crap and eventually getting round to playing, the threatning to hit the munchkin with the dmg, the random yelling and joking etc etc.

Rules light COULD be a good thing, but then you start to think.. why not just do away with any rules and play systemless.

Bring on the overpowered characters and more godlike stats.. ooo yes. I don't care, you can't take AD&D Planescape away from me! *clings*

Ahh well, i'll take a look when it comes out, lament over the dumbing down of the cosmology and the stupidity of the monsters then go back to playing whatever I already have on the shelf. Most likely WOD as it's on a shelf I can reach. Heh.


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:26 pm 
 

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I am starting to read that statement as 4E is going to be more rules "light".  Anyone else feel the same way?

And man if that is the case all the hospitals around the world are going to be getting a huge influx of 3E fanboys, all having two broken legs.....  :P


Well, the gaming world seems to be moving toward the style of World of Darkness and the Uniquity system, which is similar, so I'd bet they're moving that way, because 3.5 collapses under its own weight.

I really wish they'd totally re-do the system more along the lines of SPI's old Dragonquest system, where there were no levels.


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:29 pm 
 

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:31 pm 
 

And their site appears to have been either pounded into oblivion, or taken down for the time being. :D

  


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:32 pm 
 

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:33 pm 
 

Nice goat by the way.  :D


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:38 pm 
 

nice ddos as well :lol: :lol:
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Post Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:41 pm 
 

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What a classic .... This is how they are going to run an online site....  8O


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:50 pm 
 

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the number of the rear two-thirds of the beast is currently unavailable please try later?? :lol: :lol:

  

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:56 pm 
 

Rakeesh sah Tarna wrote:[ Image ]
the number of the rear two-thirds of the beast is currently unavailable please try later?? :lol: :lol:


Well maybe all the praying for WotC to rot in hell has paid off  :wink:


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