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Post Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:13 pm 
 

PM-Knight wrote in Number of Ebay shithead sellers on the increase:How do I go about things the "right way" with eBay to win a case and get the box set? I have bought from this guy before, but this is ridiculous.
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In order to cancel a sale, you have to, in effect, sign off on it, if I am not mistaken.  The seller has to say something like you and he have agreed to not complete the sale.  Then you get an e-mail/message asking if that's true.  All you have to do is not agree and reply by saying that the seller does not want to complete the sale because he now has it listed for a higher price.  It is critical in these situations with eBay to just tell the truth with no commentary or colorful language whatsoever.  Some people never learn that the first rule of arguing is to never show anger because that is the universal sign of who is the loser.   8O   Let the facts speak for themselves.  You won't get the item you want, but he will think twice before he pulls that trick again.  And don't forget to block him as a bidder on any of your auctions.  That's what I'd do.   8)


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:23 pm 
 

I doubt this was a trick; looks like a mistake on the seller's part -- as he stated, he wasn't able to change the price like he wanted, and ended up posting it with a BIN equal to his old starting price.  Your major dilemma is whether you want to try and hold the seller to his mistake, or let it go.

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:03 pm 
 

My advice is to walk away.  Not worth getting into a pissing contest over this item. He made a dumb mistake, and I cannot believe after not getting any bids he's going to sell it for that much, but it's not worth the heartburn it could cause to mess with this.  In all things, keep Ebay/Paypal management out of everything just like in all things, keep those morons in the government/IRS out of your personal affairs.

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:23 pm 
 

Badmike wrote in Number of Ebay shithead sellers on the increase:My advice is to walk away.  Not worth getting into a pissing contest over this item. He made a dumb mistake, and I cannot believe after not getting any bids he's going to sell it for that much, but it's not worth the heartburn it could cause to mess with this.  In all things, keep Ebay/Paypal management out of everything just like in all things, keep those morons in the government/IRS out of your personal affairs.

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Mike's right... sometimes it's best to walk away...

But if you want to be a prick, track the item after ten days and then send him a message if he's upset that it's languishing in limbo. Then ask him if he'd sell it at his original offer...   :P


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Post Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:53 pm 
 

Hey Guys, I really appreciate the feedback (no eBay reference intended) and I will "let it go" as most of you said, but I will put the bug in his head that he has a willing buyer still at the price he originally listed  :wink:

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:17 pm 
 

I really like to believe in Karma, as it makes it easier to get through life that way, but I have not been the recipient as quickly as this.

In the prior posts, I had mentioned about the "douche" who had ended his auction and then changed it to increase the price of his item by $110.

Well, I am glad to share with all of you who offered such sage council that I just bought the same thing for $55 from another seller ... SWEET  :D  Sweet Lou in fact (lol)


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Post Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:50 pm 
 

Seller is definitely NOT a "S***head", but if you are looking to purchase, please ask about the conditions. I did not  :roll:

eBay ID: PREDFAN
Thank you for you patronage, however I did list the books as used, used books sometimes have highlighting. The highlighting was minimal in only two of the several books I sold you and really does not impede your ability to use the books. I do not feel that it is fair that you ask for any type of refund again the books were listed as used and other than the highlighting they were in very good condition. I do wish you would have asked more questions, I am sorry your purchase was not 100% the way you wanted.

Just to be clear, here is what I wrote about the books I received:
I was somewhat disappointed with two of the books. Mists of Betrayal had significant highlighting (blue and pink) throughout the book, while Parlainth Adventures had three passages highlighted in purple. There are Buy It Now options available, which would cost about $17.50 to get these two books in comparable condition, without the highlighting. Would you be amenable to splitting the difference ($8.75), since I should have asked more about their conditions? Please let me know.

I had no aspirations of receiving any kind of refund, but thought my logic was not unwarranted, so I decided to ask, as some sellers do not realize the condition of the things they are selling and will be somewhat amenable.

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Post Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:10 pm 
 

PM-Knight wrote in Number of Ebay shithead sellers on the increase:Seller is definitely NOT a "S***head", but if you are looking to purchase, please ask about the conditions. I did not  :roll:

eBay ID: PREDFAN
Thank you for you patronage, however I did list the books as used, used books sometimes have highlighting. The highlighting was minimal in only two of the several books I sold you and really does not impede your ability to use the books. I do not feel that it is fair that you ask for any type of refund again the books were listed as used and other than the highlighting they were in very good condition. I do wish you would have asked more questions, I am sorry your purchase was not 100% the way you wanted.

Just to be clear, here is what I wrote about the books I received:
I was somewhat disappointed with two of the books. Mists of Betrayal had significant highlighting (blue and pink) throughout the book, while Parlainth Adventures had three passages highlighted in purple. There are Buy It Now options available, which would cost about $17.50 to get these two books in comparable condition, without the highlighting. Would you be amenable to splitting the difference ($8.75), since I should have asked more about their conditions? Please let me know.

I had no aspirations of receiving any kind of refund, but thought my logic was not unwarranted, so I decided to ask, as some sellers do not realize the condition of the things they are selling and will be somewhat amenable.

Just an FYI


Just file a "not as described" claim with eBay and get your money back. It's almost a guarantee. Hiding behind "used" is not enough of a disclosure; unless he said it was highlighted, you're going to get your money back. You won't be able to neg him after you do that, so, either neg him or file for the refund. I would probably just get my money back, but I might neg his face off. :)

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Post Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:23 pm 
 

I think Ebay's policy is, buyer pays shipping back to the seller (using a trackable method) and then the seller will refund your original purchase price.  In most cases where I have had this issue, it has not been worth the time or effort to cover the cost of shipping which the buyer is usually on the hook for.

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:18 am 
 

If you take pictures of the defective product (and I would consider highlighted product defective, and return them) and include them with the not as described claim, sometimes you don't have to mail back the items, Ebay will just refund you.

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Post Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:05 am 
 

Badmike wrote in Number of Ebay shithead sellers on the increase:If you take pictures of the defective product (and I would consider highlighted product defective, and return them) and include them with the not as described claim, sometimes you don't have to mail back the items, Ebay will just refund you.

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as a seller I feel like buyers could take pictures of turds floating in the bowl and get a refund...hell they could probably return a box full of turds and get a refund!!!


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Post Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:35 pm 
 

Howdy All,

Got a new one ... eBay Seller ID: db7h9w

Here are the facts:
Won two items (Dark Legacy Of Evard & Lair Assault - Attack of the Tyrant Claw) and when I received the invoice, the shipping was listed as $12 for Standard Shipping. The listings said to contact seller about shipping options, so I sent the following message at 9:36pm:
"Howdy, I just saw the invoice and wanted to inquire what "Standard" shipping would be. These items are not bulky by any means, so I know that Media Mail would only be a few bucks, but Priority would be about six bucks for a Flat Rate envelope. Please let me know which method you are opting to use. Thanks in Advance - Paul"
Here was the response I received at 11:29pm:
"Please let me know if you will pay the invoice, or if you will submit a 'cancel transaction' request so I can resist the items."

I did not see the response and went to work today, then had a chance to check my emails to see that the seller cancelled the transaction at 1:37pm  PDT_Armataz_01_02  WTF!?!

Anyhow, I paid the invoice and he supposedly sent the items, so I will see what happens. Please be forewarned.

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:25 pm 
 

PM-Knight wrote in Number of Ebay shithead sellers on the increase:Howdy All,

Got a new one ... eBay Seller ID: db7h9w

Here are the facts:
Won two items (Dark Legacy Of Evard & Lair Assault - Attack of the Tyrant Claw) and when I received the invoice, the shipping was listed as $12 for Standard Shipping. The listings said to contact seller about shipping options, so I sent the following message at 9:36pm:
"Howdy, I just saw the invoice and wanted to inquire what "Standard" shipping would be. These items are not bulky by any means, so I know that Media Mail would only be a few bucks, but Priority would be about six bucks for a Flat Rate envelope. Please let me know which method you are opting to use. Thanks in Advance - Paul"
Here was the response I received at 11:29pm:
"Please let me know if you will pay the invoice, or if you will submit a 'cancel transaction' request so I can resist the items."

I did not see the response and went to work today, then had a chance to check my emails to see that the seller cancelled the transaction at 1:37pm  PDT_Armataz_01_02  WTF!?!

Anyhow, I paid the invoice and he supposedly sent the items, so I will see what happens. Please be forewarned.

Thank you,


I understand that you didn't ask for a refund or anything (at least not yet) but, words to the wise: You cannot CANNOT get anything from shipping once you buy/win the item. I had a guy charge $25 to ship me some modules that he literally packaged WITH TRASH (a plastic donut tray with glaze still inside was used to pad the modules). They can charge virtually anything for shipping, and once you agree, that's it. You agreed. I include the shipping price in any item I buy just as though it was part of the price now, it's exactly the same thing. Good luck with the transaction!!

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Post Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:09 am 
 

if the seller misrepresents the shipping cost, you can absolutely contest for a partial refund. I've had to do that on a few occassions, especially when sellers were charging 3x (or more) for what turns out to be economy rate. Re-using boxes and filler (thankfully no trash) so not paying for any packaging, but charging me for it. Or even when they weren't using boxes at all.. just plain brown wrapping paper and calling it a day! PDT_Armataz_01_33

  


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Post Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:47 pm 
 

misterspock wrote in Number of Ebay shithead sellers on the increase:if the seller misrepresents the shipping cost, you can absolutely contest for a partial refund. I've had to do that on a few occassions, especially when sellers were charging 3x (or more) for what turns out to be economy rate. Re-using boxes and filler (thankfully no trash) so not paying for any packaging, but charging me for it. Or even when they weren't using boxes at all.. just plain brown wrapping paper and calling it a day! PDT_Armataz_01_33


I don't mean like, misweighing or something. I mean, the auction says $25 for shipping. Period. You agree, and even if he spends $8 on shipping you get nothing back. I tried. They shot me down because I knew about the cost up front. I appealed, and got shot down again, same reason. They get their cut from the shipping now so they don't care, you know?

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Post Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:00 pm 
 

Zenfinite wrote in Number of Ebay shithead sellers on the increase:
misterspock wrote in Number of Ebay shithead sellers on the increase:if the seller misrepresents the shipping cost, you can absolutely contest for a partial refund. I've had to do that on a few occassions, especially when sellers were charging 3x (or more) for what turns out to be economy rate. Re-using boxes and filler (thankfully no trash) so not paying for any packaging, but charging me for it. Or even when they weren't using boxes at all.. just plain brown wrapping paper and calling it a day! PDT_Armataz_01_33


I don't mean like, misweighing or something. I mean, the auction says $25 for shipping. Period. You agree, and even if he spends $8 on shipping you get nothing back. I tried. They shot me down because I knew about the cost up front. I appealed, and got shot down again, same reason. They get their cut from the shipping now so they don't care, you know?

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Hey Guys,
In the instance above, the listing showed only "Standard Shipping" without an amount, but said to "Contact Seller about Shipping Options", which is what I did ... albeit after the auction and once I received the invoice. eBay is definitely becoming egregious whether you are a buyer or seller.
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Post Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:02 am 
 

I kinda miss the days when you could list an item for a BIN of .01 and shipping charge of $40 and not have to pay a % of shipping fees to feeBay

it was fun while it lasted. lol. did I do it? OF COURSE I DID

shipping has gotten so high these days. even with ebays discounts.

i don't know if anyone on here does it, but how do you turn a profit at all shipping FREE? i know raising the price of an item is one way. how does it work in the long run?

also, i like many buyers just don't want to pay $15 shipping for a boardgame (if you are into them). it's just ridiculous


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Post Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:58 am 
 

Zenfinite wrote in Number of Ebay shithead sellers on the increase:
misterspock wrote in Number of Ebay shithead sellers on the increase:if the seller misrepresents the shipping cost, you can absolutely contest for a partial refund. I've had to do that on a few occassions, especially when sellers were charging 3x (or more) for what turns out to be economy rate. Re-using boxes and filler (thankfully no trash) so not paying for any packaging, but charging me for it. Or even when they weren't using boxes at all.. just plain brown wrapping paper and calling it a day! PDT_Armataz_01_33


I don't mean like, misweighing or something. I mean, the auction says $25 for shipping. Period. You agree, and even if he spends $8 on shipping you get nothing back. I tried. They shot me down because I knew about the cost up front. I appealed, and got shot down again, same reason. They get their cut from the shipping now so they don't care, you know?

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There's a difference between charging $25 for shipping and getting something that's carefully packaged to prevent damaged, and charging $25 and sending something parcel post wrapped in newspaper. If I'm paying for premium shipping I'd expect premium shipping. I've had that kind of stuff happen before, but I've also had the opposite. Case in point: I bought some "Datatainers" (basically empty plastic jugs for photo chemicals) from B&H Photo, and they were wrapped in large-bubble bubble wrap! I thought that was a little overpackaged for something that would survive being dropped from an airplane.


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