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Poll: Least Favorite AD&D 1st Edition book?

Players Handbook 0%       0%  [ 0 ]
Dungeon Masters Guide 0%       0%  [ 0 ]
Monster Manual 0%       0%  [ 0 ]
Legends & Lore / Deities & Demigods 4%       4%  [ 3 ]
Fiend Folio 6%       6%  [ 4 ]
Monster Manual II 3%       3%  [ 2 ]
Unearthed Arcana 14%       14%  [ 10 ]
Oriental Adventures 25%       25%  [ 18 ]
Greyhawk Adventures 10%       10%  [ 7 ]
Dragonlance Adventures 39%       39%  [ 28 ]
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Post Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:58 pm 
 

I agree that WSG and DSG should have been included in the list. Irregardless, Dragonlance Adventures I think is the least useful..as in useless. As much a hodgepodge of stuff UA turned out to be (I remember it was a huge let down when I bought it), I'd say there's at least a couple useful things in it. Same with OA and GA. There was at least something in there, and obviously that's not saying much

I do remember in elementary school and junior high feeling like these books were a ripoff in '85 and onward. I have those same feelings today :(
except for MotP...I actually enjoy re-reading that today

  


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Post Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:17 pm 
 

DL adventures for the same reasons as misterspock. WSG was the most boring.

I like the initial concept of the Underdark setting as presented in DSG (cool maps and area descriptions), UA (PC races), and MM2 (monsters). An campaign could be run just using those.


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Post Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:30 pm 
 

Unearthed Arcana because of the cheap spine.  It was one of the toughest books to get in good condition.

  

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:37 pm 
 

Since I exited active playing before the following books:

Unearthed Arcana   
 14%  [ 5 ]
Oriental Adventures   
 17%  [ 6 ]
Greyhawk Adventures   
 14%  [ 5 ]
Dragonlance Adventures   
 42%  [ 15 ]

I'd have to say that I really thought the fiend folio was pretty lame... the monsters had weird names weird abilities and weird drawings... The Monster Manual II was more traditional thus better IMHO.

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:16 am 
 

OA. No contest for me.


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:22 pm 
 

I thought Oriental Adventures was a really good book.

Once you have made your saving throw and avoided being blinded when the book's binding exploded, you can gather up the pieces and learn some cool things about Asian game settings.

Non-European settings in general do not sell well to American gamers.  Oriental Adventures was on the bestseller list, even if no one ever played a game based on it.

There were, however, enough rule-bends and splatbook sort of things in Oriental Adventures to mess up an ongoing game:  

The martial arts rules worked like dynamite to launch a monk character.  If you started as a monk and switched to a fighter class after second level...shazam!  

Then there was the bushi, who could do everything a fighter could do, with an AC bonus, on a much easier experience table.  

Also, there was the nifty line toward the end of the book that said, "unless you are targeting a part of the body not covered by armor."  That was a game grenade.


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:12 pm 
 

This poll really is useless without the inclusion of the Wilderness and Dungeoneers Survival Guides.  Those two books were garbage.  The only reason I own either of them is because they were gifted to me.  Otherwise neither of them would be in my bookcase.

Since they werent included I had to vote for Greyhawk Adventures.  I didnt buy that one either.  Some poor schlub left it at my house.  :)

Oriental Adventures was pretty cool.  Some of the weapons were badass.  Chu-ko-nu?  Who didnt want a semi-automatic crossbow?


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:52 am 
 

FormCritic wrote:Least favorite - hands down - the survival guides.  But, since they weren't on the list....

I would agree... The Survival Guides were amusing to read through, but 100% useless in my game.  They would get my vote if they were on the list.

I noticed Manual of the Planes isn't on the poll either, but that is definitely a better book than the Survival Guides... but I also never had need for it, since we never delved into planar travel and all that jazz.  It is a fun book to read.  :)

Oriental Adventures gets a bad rap sometimes, but I agree with a few of the people above that like it... it was a pretty good book, overall.  We used it very lightly in our game.  One player would want to play a class from that book and we would just dump him into our regular Greyhawk game, so he was the fish-out-of-water.  lol  That was a lot of fun, actually.  Fun roleplay moments.

The Greyhawk and Dragonlance books were actually pretty good.  Again, something I read and never actually used, but I can't slam them for quality.

From the list, I would have to say that Unearthed Arcana is probably the book with the most problems... including the binding, as people have mentioned already.  lol  I remember having to glue my binding to fix it the week I bought it.  Grrr.  It is a book with a few good tidbits, but overall, it has a lot of problems.  I think a smart DM will usually either ditch it completely or will pick-and-choose the bits they want to use in their game.  I did some picking and choosing and it worked out fine.  The spells and items are probably the thing I saw as most useful from the book.  I even allowed players to play the new classes, if they wanted, but they were a bomb in our group.  Like one person played a Cavalier and one played a Barbarian just to give them a go and that was about it.

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:51 am 
 

Among kids, oriental adventures seemed like a hit and the talk on playgrounds. I remember back in the mid-80's, all things ninja - movies, especially - were super cool. So it may not have worked well in campaigns, but the book probably helped TSR's reputation and bottom line.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:17 pm 
 

Manual of the Planes. I recall flipping through this when it was released, putting it back on the shelf in a fit of 'meh', and I've never touched a copy since.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:11 pm 
 

I like parts of all of them, but in general, the *SGs are more useless to me than the others.


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Post Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:04 pm 
 

I voted for Fiend Folio.
I only just recently got a copy for my collection.

I'd forgotten how much I hate that book: the art, the font, the monsters ... dear God that thing sucked ****.  

It's quite possible that I gave away the original copy I had simply because I couldn't stand to look at it.

The Dungeon Survival Guide really, really sucks, too.  But it's not on the list.

I've never owned a copy of the DL book.
From the poll results, it looks like I may not want to, except for the sake of completing my 1E library.


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Post Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:09 pm 
 

Keith the Thief wrote:I voted for Fiend Folio.
I only just recently got a copy for my collection.

I'd forgotten how much I hate that book: the art, the font, the monsters ... dear God that thing sucked ****.


I have come to like the Fiend Folio for what it was.

It was a jolt to young American gamers because we were expecting Monster Manual II.

The was a British contribution to the game, from their particular take on the genre, rather than a successor to the Monster Manual.

The Fiend Folio was wierd at the time, but this month I am gearing up to purchase a module/miniature deal from Center Stage and Pacesetter based around what became one of my favorite monsters...the fog giant.

So, there were some gems in among the frigglygrunks, jobarts and marleydiggs.


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Post Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:06 pm 
 

FormCritic wrote:The Fiend Folio was wierd at the time.

Yeah it was, but I love it.  Some really great stuff in there.

Some time ago, I found a .pdf floating around that someone put together that includes all of the Fiend Factory monsters from White Dwarf.  It contains a lot of the critters that made up the Fiend Folio but also has quite a few that didnt quite make the cut.  One of the stranger entries is for Mandrake People.  This is the first sentence of the description:

A mandrake resembles an extremely thin humanoid with very large genitalia and bark-like skin the colour of a beech trunk.  Little of his skin actually shows through the great masses of dark-green hair-like rootlets that cover his body. Red eyes glow from deep hollows above a hair-lip mouth with triangular teeth, similar to those of a shark.

I'll bet more than a few DM's had a lot of fun with that one.


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Post Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:24 am 
 

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A mandrake resembles an extremely thin humanoid with very large genitalia and bark-like skin the colour of a beech trunk.  Little of his skin actually shows through the great masses of dark-green hair-like rootlets that cover his body. Red eyes glow from deep hollows above a hair-lip mouth with triangular teeth, similar to those of a shark.

I'll bet more than a few DM's had a lot of fun with that one.


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Post Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:50 am 
 

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Sorry.  That was way off-topic.
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Post Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:20 am 
 

No worries.  8)


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Post Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:57 pm 
 

FormCritic wrote:No worries.  8)


quite right, I don't thhink anyone here would take offense at a little frustration venting, especially in such circumstances.FWIW my heart goes out to you and yours.

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