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Post Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:16 pm 
 

You can hack a Kindle or Nook to be a poor-man's iPad.

The screen is pretty crappy.


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:33 pm 
 

I realize this topic is really going away from D&D, but my wife's birthday is coming up, she loves to read, and she runs out of books pretty fast, so an e-Reader makes sense as a gift.  She often reads right before she goes to sleep and has to leave the lights on as I fade into oblivion so a back-lit screen would be nice.  She has a blackberry she loves, so she doesn't need the expanded features of the iPad.  She likes murder mysteries and other novels without pictures.  Given all that, which product would most of you suggest?   :?:


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:33 pm 
 

benjoshua wrote:I realize this topic is really going away from D&D, but my wife's birthday is coming up, she loves to read, and she runs out of books pretty fast, so an e-Reader makes sense as a gift.  She often reads right before she goes to sleep and has to leave the lights on as I fade into oblivion so a back-lit screen would be nice.  She has a blackberry she loves, so she doesn't need the expanded features of the iPad.  She likes murder mysteries and other novels without pictures.  Given all that, which product would most of you suggest?   :?:


An ereader sounds perfect but my only experience is with the kindle, which I absolutely love. I believe it is one of the more expensive ones (especially with the whispernet). It isn't the kindle itself that I like so much but what the technology means, I am now up to around 440 books or stories on mine. There is lots of free older works but the newer books are expensive.


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:01 pm 
 

JasonZavoda wrote:I've heard of it but haven't tried it yet. Not sure how it can be downloaded to the kindle. I believe Amazon charges for outside pdfs and text to go from your computer to their service to the kindle, but I am not sure.


FWIW, I've downloaded a ton of PG files in .mobi or .txt formats to my Kindle, and they're all good quality, and still free :D

FoulFoot wrote:You can connect the Kindle to your computer and upload any .pdf you like, for free of course.  .pdf's don't work as well as eBooks, though, unless they're specially authored for eReaders.... you may find that you have to zoom into the page to read it, and then drag the screen around in order to read the whole page.  Very cumbersome.


I agree, that's where the iPad touch screen is better.  But, I've found the PG .mobi files (with or without illustrations) to be excellent on the Kindle (but there shouldn't be a big surprise there, since .mobi files are Kindle's native support format).  See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Kindle#File_formats for more info.

benjoshua wrote:my wife's birthday is coming up, she loves to read, and she runs out of books pretty fast, so an e-Reader makes sense as a gift.  She often reads right before she goes to sleep and has to leave the lights on as I fade into oblivion so a back-lit screen would be nice.  She has a blackberry she loves, so she doesn't need the expanded features of the iPad.  She likes murder mysteries and other novels without pictures.  Given all that, which product would most of you suggest?   :?:


If you're primarily using the ereader for reading vs. web/etc., then I'd go with a Kindle or Nook.  I don't know offhand if the Kindle 3 is back-lit, though, so that may be an issue re: your wife's nighttime reading?


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:05 pm 
 

After researching about an hour primarily on Amazon, the Kindle 3G is apparently what I want for my situation.  The Kindle is not back-lit because that apparently causes other problems:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technol ... sleep.html

Therefore, in order to read at night you have to get a little attachable reading lamp which is what you have to use for a book anyway.  The pessimist in me can't help but wonder if Kindle is promoting this to justify not providing this feature.

The thing that surprised me the most was that apparently a Kindle can go about three weeks in between charges.  The worst thing about the Kindle in my opinion is that you can not replace the battery yourself.  It has to be shipped off to Amazon for replacement.  However, batteries last about three years, and by that time, you are likely to just get the newest machine.

I'll give this thread a few more days to hear additional feedback.  Thanks to everyone who has contributed so far.  8)


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:25 pm 
 

benjoshua wrote:After researching about an hour primarily on Amazon, the Kindle 3G is apparently what I want for my situation.  The Kindle is not back-lit because that apparently causes other problems:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technol ... sleep.html

Therefore, in order to read at night you have to get a little attachable reading lamp which is what you have to use for a book anyway.  The pessimist in me can't help but wonder if Kindle is promoting this to justify not providing this feature.

The thing that surprised me the most was that apparently a Kindle can go about three weeks in between charges.  The worst thing about the Kindle in my opinion is that you can not replace the battery yourself.  It has to be shipped off to Amazon for replacement.  However, batteries last about three years, and by that time, you are likely to just get the newest machine.

I'll give this thread a few more days to hear additional feedback.  Thanks to everyone who has contributed so far.  8)


I know that the charge is considerably less with the wireless left on, and I think it is also much less if the speech ability is used. It does have an automatic sleep mode which is good because so do I and I tend to drop off in mid sent...  snore


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:35 pm 
 

benjoshua wrote:After researching about an hour primarily on Amazon, the Kindle 3G is apparently what I want for my situation.  The Kindle is not back-lit because that apparently causes other problems:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technol ... sleep.html

Therefore, in order to read at night you have to get a little attachable reading lamp which is what you have to use for a book anyway.  The pessimist in me can't help but wonder if Kindle is promoting this to justify not providing this feature.

The thing that surprised me the most was that apparently a Kindle can go about three weeks in between charges.  The worst thing about the Kindle in my opinion is that you cannot replace the battery yourself.  It has to be shipped off to Amazon for replacement.  However, batteries last about three years, and by that time, you are likely to just get the newest machine.

I'll give this thread a few more days to hear additional feedback.  Thanks to everyone who has contributed so far.  8)


Has that model of Kindle with THAT battery even been out that long?
How do they know the battery life is 3 years?
What is that estimate of battery life based on?
Occasional use, or almost Constant use?
Must you follow Exact-recharging guidelines for the battery to last that long and if you do not is the warranty voided?
What if a power surge blasted the battery only…?
You must send the entire units to them to replace just the battery, meaning you have nothing in the meantime?

Guess I am skeptical about companies that proudly proclaiming a 3-year battery life.
I have a bunch of field equipment that must use a lot of various batteries and many of the batteries proudly state long life cycles and a long running time between charges.
All a bunch of BS…
PLUS you cannot change the battery out yourself once it does go bad?
At least with my field equipment I do not have to do without my equipment to change the batteries they lied to me about regarding life cycles.

That alone would be a deal killer for me and the no backlight problem would be even more ammo against that purchase for me.
You have to buy OTHER stuff to use it?
More BS IMO....
I think you wont like the lack of the backlight as much as you think and IMO; the battery thing is a bigger deal than you think too.


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:23 pm 
 

I can vouch for my Kindle 2 battery lasting a very long time---I do, however, have wireless turned off, and don't use the other experimental features on it (email, web browsing, mp3 player, etc.).


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:58 am 
 

Don't bother with the 3G.  Save $50 and just get the wireless-only version.  I mean, how often are you not within range of a wifi node?  I just have it use my home connection, or in the rare occasion that I want to buy a book when on the road, I'll just use whatever wifi connection is nearby.

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:26 pm 
 

Kindle 3 without 3G bought!  Thanks for the advice and inspiring the idea.  Now I just have to wait for the delivery.  Her birthday isn't until the 19th, so I should be O.K.   8)


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:39 pm 
 

benjoshua wrote:Kindle 3 without 3G bought!  Thanks for the advice and inspiring the idea.  Now I just have to wait for the delivery.  Her birthday isn't until the 19th, so I should be O.K.   8)


I absolutely love the kindle, as I've said. I'm at 505 books/essays/titles so far. It is easier to look for the free books online at the amazon kindle store. You can do searches but it is amazing what does not come up. When you look at a specfic title there is usually a line of suggested books that others have bought. There are normally about 8 or so books on the line and twenty pages of suggested titles. I have great fun following these suggested title because when you click on one and check the suggested titles for that book, they've changed and suddenly you can discover free books that you couldn't locate through the regular search.

For example, I did a search for rafeal sabatini and found three of his books for free, but when I was downloading a different book I kept finding other sabatini books for free and ended up with about a dozen of them.

This may prove to be a great deal of fun or a great annoyance, but for me it's been fun.

Make sure to read customer reviews before buying (even for free titles) and check the review date compared to the updated version of the book. Old reviews seem to be kept even when the complaints they warn about are corrected with updated versions.


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:35 pm 
 

Is there a particular brand that is better than another.


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Post Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:52 am 
 

bbarsh wrote:Is there a particular brand that is better than another.


Brand of e-Reader or brand/type of Kindle?

There are several e-Readers like the Nook and Kindle and some people use the iPad for reading.  There are multiple Kindles, like the Kindle 2, Kindle 3, Kindle 3G, and Kindle DX, but only one brand.   8)


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:14 pm 
 

Something to think about:

http://gizmodo.com/#!5793334/when-you-cancel-your-
magazine-subscription-on-your-kindle-your-back-issues-disappear-too

also, wasn't it just awhile back Kindle users were in an uproar because Amazon was removing books from user's Kindles?

Oh yeh this was it:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/techn ... mazon.html

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:42 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:Something to think about:

http://gizmodo.com/#!5793334/when-you-cancel-your-
magazine-subscription-on-your-kindle-your-back-issues-disappear-too

also, wasn't it just awhile back Kindle users were in an uproar because Amazon was removing books from user's Kindles?

Oh yeh this was it:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/techn ... mazon.html

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I think the battery replacement business is more worrying.

But this will be true of any ereader that you can't download to your computer.

I would never have run out and bought a kindle or an ereader, but I'm damn glad that I see what they can do. I'm at 800 or so novels, stories and collections. Personally I find most of the non-fiction works of the 20th century to be crap. The kindle lets you have access to tousands of books of source material or scholarly translations of source material for free. The early 20th century sci-fi/fantasy/horror writers have eCollections that only cost a few dollars, usally .99c or $1.99

I now have more Clark Ashton Smith than I ever thought I'd come across as well as Lord Dunsany, Arthur Machen, Algernon Blackwood, Sax Rhomer, etc... and I keep discovering books and authors I never knew existed.

Suppossedly they can't yank the books from your kindle anymore, but who can tell what a company or a government will choose to do in the future.


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:49 pm 
 

Well - one of the things they'll certainly do is access your e-reader to see what you are reading.  

They'll access e-reader files in court to prove various negative things about people....prove associations....prove state of mind...or (most obviously) prove that you have been reading pornography.

Also, until they get caught at it, they'll access your e-reader to sell information about you to other vendors.

If Amazon and Barnes and Noble can access your e-reader, it's pretty clear that someone else will learn to access it as well very shortly.


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:53 pm 
 

Not to mention that when/if civilization collapses, all of the DIY books and technical manuals on people's Kindles aren't gonna be much use in rebuilding... :lol: .

I think it was Stephen King who said something along the lines of, "If you drop your book in the toilet, you just dry it out and it's still readable. If you drop your kindle in the toilet, you're screwed."


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:20 pm 
 

benjoshua wrote:Kindle 3 without 3G bought!  Thanks for the advice and inspiring the idea.  Now I just have to wait for the delivery.  Her birthday isn't until the 19th, so I should be O.K.   8)


She loved it!  Woo woo!  I can stay in the house for a little while longer.   :wink:


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