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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:40 pm

Cant say I've seen Beastmaster, but I did see Hawk the Slayer, now that was something! Again, that and Krull were last seen 25yrs ago roughly, but they caught my imagination, especially the rapid arrow firing elf! :lol:

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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:32 pm

Fugitive From the Empire

Anyone seen that on tape or DVD?

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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:17 pm

jonjhargreaves wrote:Beastmaster... had that on tape, seem to remember playing it a whole lot about the time I got into D&D.
Wonder if it stands up to watching now?
...will it be better left in prepubescent memory?

I loved Beastmaster and remember watching it all the time on HBO. It was a great show back then but certainly does not stand the test of time.

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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:51 pm

Hawk the Slayer was an all-time fave. And I actually enjoyed the cheesy, futuristic music.

Rumor has it there is a sequel in the works....

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:37 am

Center_Stage wrote:Hawk the Slayer was an all-time fave. And I actually enjoyed the cheesy, futuristic music.

Seconded. And the Sword and the Sorcerer.

Easily the best of that run of fantasy films.

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:48 am

FormCritic wrote:Fugitive From the Empire Anyone seen that on tape or DVD?

An old VHS copy or DVD bootleg appears on eBay occasionally, but the whole thing is now on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa8Tlel7BPw

This is one of my favorite cheeseball sword & sorcery movies; the Deathstalker series is pretty sweet too.

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:44 am

Beastmaster was a trilogy of movies actually.

http://www.imdb.com/rg/VIDEO_PLAY/LINK/ ... 784638745/

The Beastmaster: (1982)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083630/

Tonya Roberts (Kiri) and Marc Singer (Dar).
The "death guards" :twisted:

, a blind King who does not know his own son and rejects him as a freak (Dar), the "Eye" spy (Wizards Ring), Coven of Witches, Black Tiger, Hawk, Ferrets, man-eating flying bat like creatures...

What's not to like?
Awesome stuff.

Beastmaster 2: Through the Portal of Time: (1991)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101412/
(A dud IMO)

Beastmaster 3: The Eye of Braxus: (1996)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112469/
(Better than #2, but not as good as the original... by far)

I enjoyed the movies for what they were (an escape to fantasy), with the first easily being my favorite of them.
A few years later (1999) Beastmaster had a three season run (65 episodes) as a TV series.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0215392/

Trailer of Season One:
http://www.imdb.com/rg/VIDEO_PLAY/LINK/ ... 075722009/

Did not much get into the series although the eye candy was nice...
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2351470592/tt0215392
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2385025024/tt0215392
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2368247808/tt0215392

Marc Singer was in the cast too (at the end) though not as Dar, but as Dartanus who was a grizzled old warrior training young Dar be the best Beastmaster he could be.
(Singer was in 7 Episodes, all in Season three)

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:15 am

Funny Ebay description:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0451057921

You Brits will probably enjoy this more than anyone else. Still some slang I dont understand. :lol:

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:49 am

Kingofpain89 wrote:Funny Ebay description:

** expired/removed eBay auction **

You Brits will probably enjoy this more than anyone else. Still some slang I dont understand.

LoL!

Hes going to get a good price on that, innit?

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:53 am

Kingofpain89 wrote:Funny Ebay description:

** expired/removed eBay auction **

You Brits will probably enjoy this more than anyone else. Still some slang I dont understand.

It is even on facebook now...

WOW!

http://www.facebook.com/pages/best-e-ba ... 466?v=wall

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:55 pm

Gnat the Beggar wrote:
It is even on facebook now...
WOW!

http://www.facebook.com/pages/best-e-ba ... 466?v=wall

6 pages of questions and answers written in the same style as the ad. Worth reading for the laughs. :lol:

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:13 pm

It is also an enlightening look at the English social services system as someone from the UK sees it.

There is a lot of talk about the council housing area and the type of people who live there...at least when seen through outside eyes.

Some members here frequently say similar things about the UK welfare system. I gather that this reflects a view of the people living in that system from a certain portion of the UK middle class...?

I wonder how many other Brits here have similar views. :?:

Also, some of the language of the listing would be regarded as overtly racist in an American setting. Given that the writing is meant to be humorous, and a certain leeway is allowed in satire, the piece would still be offensive to many American readers. (You could ridicule drug dealers in America, or even complain about the welfare system, but using realistic idiom to parody street language would cross an invisible PC line because it would be specific to one racial group.)

Does the same language denote a certain racial group in a British setting, or is it less about race and more about class?

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:25 pm

I'd say the ad is written by someone who has had enough of the 'Chav' level of the UK society.

I'd never consider myself middle-class, as per the Formcritics post, but you can still be working class and intelligent and well spoken.

Personally, I think there is working class and then the 'social' class now. Or you could view it as lower working class, middle working class, upper working class, before you move into middle class. But the 'Chavs' or 'socials' are typically a minority of UKs society but get a majority of press coverage as its easy to write about them and cause uproar, (especially if you read the Daily Mail :roll:

)

Perhaps some perspective is put on this when my best friend, who is a real East Ender but has moved to a town 50miles away, now says he wants to get into the local town centre and shops early on a Saturday morning before the 'Chavs' get up! :lol:

I don't view the ad or subsequent questions as racial, but more a class view of someone fed up with Chavs and taking a pop at them.

I also think its rather amusing. :lol:

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:27 pm

Hi,

more about the "tribal" thing.

Most of the "Chavs" I know work for a living - tho in low-pay employment.
They are a tribe - like Goths - but theres a lot more of them. Kind of like Rednecks?

Interesting that Ebay allowed the word "twat" to stay. Not something I would say in polite company

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:45 pm

FormCritic wrote:Also, some of the language of the listing would be regarded as overtly racist in an American setting. Given that the writing is meant to be humorous, and a certain leeway is allowed in satire, the piece would still be offensive to many American readers. (You could ridicule drug dealers in America, or even complain about the welfare system, but using realistic idiom to parody street language would cross an invisible PC line because it would be specific to one racial group.)

Does the same language denote a certain racial group in a British setting, or is it less about race and more about class?

Thankfully the freedom to offend whites is protected by our unwritten constitution.

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:46 pm

ashmire13 wrote:I'd never consider myself middle-class, as per the Formcritics post, but you can still be working class and intelligent and well spoken.

In America, we do not have the concept of "working class."

We think of working people as "middle class," although we may divide them into "upper middle class" and "lower middle class." The designation includes laborers, professionals and executives within a given income range. Most Americans think of themselves as middle class.

We have the concept of the "working poor" to distinguish those in the lower class who still mainly support themselves by labor...which is actually the majority of that class.

Although levels of education can be typical of lower, middle or upper class, education does not determine class. A college degree in America can buy you a Big Gulp at 7-11, if you also have 99 cents to add to it.

Dialect in America is usually regional and racial, rather than education or class-related. People with higher level education still use the idiom of their race or region when speaking to other members of their group. The use of idiom and satire by an outsider, like it is used in the Ebay listing, would be considered offensive because it would be a racial or cultural insult.

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:52 pm

faro wrote:Thankfully the freedom to offend whites is protected by our unwritten constitution.

This is what I mean. Apparently, the idiom in question is common to a class rather than to a race...?

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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:52 pm

Rabbit_67 wrote:
6 pages of questions and answers written in the same style as the ad. Worth reading for the laughs.

Hilarious

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