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Post Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:14 am 
 

This is the most mind boggling story I have read in awhile.  Only in The Garbage State, New Jersey.....

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20101 ... gally.html

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:00 am 
 

Badmike wrote:This is the most mind boggling story I have read in awhile.  Only in The Garbage State, New Jersey.....

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20101 ... gally.html

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Unfortunately all too common nowadays. I hear of crap like this all the time. Convicted of a non-crime (must have caused harm to another person or their property). What part of "keep and bear" is not understood? In this case, I blame the jury more than anyone else. Especially after the judge would not allow them to see the law. ACQUIT, DUMBASSES!!! EVER HEAR OF JURY NULLIFICATION?! That's how 'we the people' are the final check on bad law.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:36 am 
 

Badmike wrote:This is the most mind boggling story I have read in awhile.  Only in The Garbage State, New Jersey.....

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20101 ... gally.html

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Angering.

To the ears of a Westerner, the stupidest part is the law against hollow point bullets....?  What does that accomplish?


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:23 am 
 

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Angering.

To the ears of a Westerner, the stupidest part is the law against hollow point bullets....?  What does that accomplish?


Many COPS carry hollow points.....for their non-penetrating nature (you don't want to shoot the perp and have the bullet sail through and take out anyone else).  I believe New Jersey is the only state that outlaws them. Just another anti-gun owner law they can use to trip up someone. Check out the draconian gun ownership laws in Washington, DC sometime...they were forced by court decision to alter their gun ownership laws recently and countered by making the resulting hoops to gun ownership almost impossible to jump through.

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:26 am 
 

50 states with 50 different sets of gun laws.
That would be confusing to anybody.
We don't have a "gun culture" in most of Canada except for hunters and street gangs in the larger cities.
What we have is federal firearms laws so that everything is consistent from coast-to-coast.


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:20 am 
 

Badmike wrote:
Many COPS carry hollow points.....for their non-penetrating nature (you don't want to shoot the perp and have the bullet sail through and take out anyone else).  I believe New Jersey is the only state that outlaws them. Just another anti-gun owner law they can use to trip up someone. Check out the draconian gun ownership laws in Washington, DC sometime...they were forced by court decision to alter their gun ownership laws recently and countered by making the resulting hoops to gun ownership almost impossible to jump through.

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That can't be right at all Badmike.  DC has some of the worst violent crime rates in the country, year in and year out.  If their gun laws were really so strict, surely the authorities could have easily prevented anyone from being armed, including criminals, and it would of course be a peaceful, crime free utopian paradise.
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Post Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:15 pm 
 

jasonw1239 wrote:What we have is federal firearms laws so that everything is consistent from coast-to-coast.


Kind of wish we had that here so there is no confusion about what is lawful in one state versus another.  I enjoy travelling by car when we go on vacation and we will sometimes drive through 3 or 4 different states to get where we are going.  I used to carry a small caliber pistol with me just in case I ran into the "wrong sort" of people.  But I dont do that anymore because the law varies so much from state to state and I dont want to end up imprisoned because I didnt know the differences in state laws.  So instead of a pistol I take a 12 gauge shotgun.  Apparently that's no big deal.  :roll:

I do need to get a concealed handgun permit though.  New Mexico is one of those states that recognizes other states' concealment laws.  Which means that a Texas resident can lawfully conceal a handgun in New Mexico without penalty.

Badmike wrote:Many COPS carry hollow points.....for their non-penetrating nature.  I believe New Jersey is the only state that outlaws them.

I dont really get this either.  A hollow point is designed to expand or break up on impact so it doesnt penetrate as far into a person, just like you said.  Although it does significantly more damage than a "normal" bullet, I still dont see why this is an issue in New Jersey.  I can understand teflon coated bullets or maybe even armor piercing bullets being unlawful but this law seems pretty silly.  And sending the guy to jail for 7 years is beyond incomprehensible to me.  From the story I read, it seems like the judge, jury, and his defense attorney are all idiots.  Some of the comments below the story are shocking to me.  Quite a few people siding against Mr. Aitken for being stupid.  But it seems that the majority of the posters are sympathetic.  This is my favorite quote of the bunch:

I guess there's no common ground anymore. In NJ, a guy gets 7 years for having LEGAL guns in his possession. In PA, a guy who is in possession of heroin, and then leaves his kid in the parking lot so he can drink and gamble in the middle of the night, gets 2 months. Then, in NJ, you read where people say, "They are illegal, period", but getting head from a calf or coming to NJ illegally from another country is overlooked. Just another reason not to live in NJ.


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:33 pm 
 

jasonw1239 wrote:50 states with 50 different sets of gun laws.
That would be confusing to anybody.
We don't have a "gun culture" in most of Canada except for hunters and street gangs in the larger cities.
What we have is federal firearms laws so that everything is consistent from coast-to-coast.


We don't have a "gun culture" here in America either.

We have crime.

Also, it is difficult for people living under other types of government to understand that American states are sovereign entities under our federal system.

Some states have laws that violate the Constitution.  It takes time and effort to strike down the bad laws...as happened in the Washington DC case.


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:12 pm 
 

Figured it was just a matter of time before someone did this (contains video):

http://www.newsok.com/article/3519710

Is it just me or does the woman in the video look like a robot to anyone else?  :roll:


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:24 pm 
 

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:36 pm 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote:Interesting story about an individual who seems very similar to cougarrinard.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/28/busin ... lobal-home


Even more interesting update to above article:

http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20 ... tail-bully

Now if only Ebay would grow a pair and do something to thin out some of their problem sellers.  :)


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:58 pm 
 

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/wor ... cle/24985/

I love this sort of thing. Well done!


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Post Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:03 am 
 

Hi,

I think this would probably be my Ultimate vacation.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-yo ... e-11921396

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Post Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:07 am 
 

Fantastic! That'd be some fun  :lol:


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Post Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:07 am 
 

Excellent. Beer, food ... if one was trapped with a bunch of role-playing books as well, it would be the perfect retreat.

  

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Post Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:30 am 
 

Tonight I dreamt I opened the shrink wrap of one of my boxed sets. Maybe I'm getting a bit carried away here  :lol:

  


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Post Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:56 am 
 

Excelleny stuff  :lol:

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/05122010/ ... rooms.html


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Post Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:13 pm 
 



well in all honesty you could see things like that happening couldnt you? i bet it won't stop there either for sure. i see other countries doing similar things.

if i can be honest about the whole situation, the country i would have liked to have seen get the world cup the most, would have been australia. i think they have some of the best facilities and their infrastructure there is excellent. they could have held something like that no problem at all and i think it would have been a resounding success.

on top of that, it is also another country that hasnt hosted the world cup yet, so again, "pushing the boundaries of the game" etc.

would have made far more sense than Qatar...but hey, money talks and fifa is all about that in the end.

for england not getting it, i dont really care at all. to us northerners it means nothing to us anyway, as we see nothing of it anyhow.

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