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Post Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:59 pm 
 

serleran wrote:Just wanted to wish myself a happy birthday, since I won't be celebrating it -- wife has to work all day, so I won't even get to see her much less have a moment to eat some cake and open a present...

Also, just felt like saying thanks to all the people here who have helped me out at times, like stratochamp (wonder if you've had any time to look over that massive list, hehe), Beyondthebreach, Mars, and Badmike amongst others especially people who have bought the stuff I've had for sale. So, thanks for a good year and a clang of glass for many more.


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:21 pm 
 

I am almost as old as D&D. 33.


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:24 pm 
 

Happy birthday!  Hopefully the wife will come home from work early all dressed up in her birthday suit! :twisted:


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:26 pm 
 

serleran wrote:I am almost as old as D&D. 33.


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:53 pm 
 

benjoshua wrote:Happy birthday!  Hopefully the wife will come home from work early all dressed up in her birthday suit! :twisted:


Hey, Ben

That typically ends when you get married... 8O


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:49 am 
 

Well, you just knew this T.O./Romo soap opera had to be coming; I'm a little surprised it took so long:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3763209

This quote is particularly telling:

"Well, T.O. got his way,'' the player said. "It never fails how we operate around here. Drives me crazy, but what can you do?''

Phillips justified Owens' argument by agreeing that getting him the ball needed to be the first offensive priority, and then owner Jerry Jones further empowered him by claiming he had no issue with anything Owens said in the interview.

Said another source: "What do you think he said after he complained about not getting the ball and then in the San Francisco game he gets 213? He said, 'Look. It works. The more hell I raise, the more I get what I want.'"


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:28 am 
 

bombadil wrote:Well, you just knew this T.O./Romo soap opera had to be coming; I'm a little surprised it took so long:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3763209

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Shockingly, I agree with Owens  8O  8O  8O

Romo flat-out stunk the last week, and hasn't played like he's capable of since the injury.  He's locked in on Witten, and that creates opportunities for the defense.  He's ignoring both Williams and Owens, who have the potential for huge gains, for the tidy, safe dump pass over the middle.  Which, BTW, is why Witten has become a punching bag for the opposition this season with numerous injuries (including the broken ribs).   No one survives long in this league with those kinds of passes, and this season has probably knocked 1-2 years off the career of Witten.

Garrett isn't calling plays that can help the offense, or TO.  The stupid end around with TO getting the ball is terrible, and they haven't had positive yardage on it all year. Likewise the idiotic throw the ball to TO on the line of scrimmage and hope he jukes 4 guys for a gain.  Likewise with Williams...you have here a guy who is big enough to outjump the opposition on a pass in the endzone and you completely ignore that ability....you know, like what's his name, that dude in the Hall of Fame, oh yeh, Michael Irvin.... :roll:  

TO's still an above average WR. But his forte is getting in the open ground and outrunning opposition, not juking people or running over people. Williams is a huge, physical receiver that can literally outjump and overpower opponents.  When both TO and Williams are getting 30 yds a game and not getting touches in the endzone, and your QB is instead throwing badly timed interceptions, you have to ask yourself what is up.

I'm with TO on this one. Forget the stupid 5 yd dump passes to the TE, start throwing the ball downfield, and get your big weapons Williams and Owens involved in the game.  Romo is too eager to check off the long pass and instead throw to his safety blanket...and don't think teams aren't noticing that and sitting on those routes.  Lazy quarterbacking will get you killed in this league.

Frankly, somebody like Staubach or Aikman needs to sit Romo the F*ck down, tell him that dating Jessica Simpson doesn't make him a superstar and let him know that he hasn't won dick yet and won't until he pulls his head out of his ass.

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:32 am 
 

bombadil wrote:Well, you just knew this T.O./Romo soap opera had to be coming; I'm a little surprised it took so long:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3763209

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I seriously think TO is mentally ill, and I am not kidding.  One would think the whole attempted suicide thing last season would have raised enough of a red flag in everyone's mind to get him some serious help, but apparently it hasn't.  He seriously suffers from paranoid delusions and I fear that if he doesn't get some real help, he might be in some serious trouble.  Aside from the fact that this is now his third team that he feels that the QB is intentionally leaving him out of the offense, when I read stuff like this:

Owens thinks Romo and Witten -- close friends and road roommates who came to Dallas in the same offseason -- hold private meetings and create plays without including Owens, according to a source who speaks regularly with Owens' teammates. Owens believes these discussions have worked to his detriment and Romo seeks to deliver the ball to Witten regardless of whether Owens is open


Romo and Whitten are conspiring in secret mettings against TO? They are creating secret plays to get Whitten the ball more?  Seriously?  This all just screams of some really serious mental issues that need to be addressed and soon. To me this extends far beyond football.


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:48 am 
 

I agree that Owens has problems, serious problems, related to vanity and egocentrism.  This reminds me of the time he worked out on his front lawn in front of reporters during his tiff with the Eagles.  It's all about attention and adoration for him.

Having said that, though, I also agree that there's something amiss with Romo.  In the game against the Steelers (fucking awesome team, eh?), did you guys notice his eyes were all puffy and he had that deer in the headlights look about him like he hadn't slept all night and was a pace or two behind everything?


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:50 am 
 

Badmike wrote:Romo flat-out stunk the last week, and hasn't played like he's capable of since the injury.  He's locked in on Witten, and that creates opportunities for the defense.  He's ignoring both Williams and Owens, who have the potential for huge gains, for the tidy, safe dump pass over the middle.  Which, BTW, is why Witten has become a punching bag for the opposition this season with numerous injuries (including the broken ribs).   No one survives long in this league with those kinds of passes, and this season has probably knocked 1-2 years off the career of Witten.


I disagree with you here Mike.  Romo obviously didn't play well ast all here in PGH last week, but to say that he is just locked in on Whitten is wrong IMO. For one, Whitten missed a fair portion of the game last week due to the fact that he got rolled up on.  But beyond that, two of Romo's interceptions last week were throws to TO.  On the first one, it was at least in part due to the fact that TO broke off his route for no reason leaving Polamalu to pick off the pass uncontested.  The second pick, the one that was thrown to Ike Taylor was underthrown for sure, but TO made absolutely no attempt to even try to get in and break up the pass.  He just stood there and watched Taylor intercept it, just standing there throwing his hands up in the air.

Badmike wrote:Garrett isn't calling plays that can help the offense, or TO.  The stupid end around with TO getting the ball is terrible, and they haven't had positive yardage on it all year. Likewise the idiotic throw the ball to TO on the line of scrimmage and hope he jukes 4 guys for a gain.  


But Mike thats the real problem with a guy like TO.  If you aren't "trying" to get him the ball enough, no matter how you try and do it, he will start to melt down. Even if the plays don't work, TO doesn't really care, he just wants to feel like the team can't win without him and that the entire offensive game plan runs right through him.  Those plays are being run not necessarrily to be successful, but simply to placate TO's extremely fragile ego and stave off one of weekly meltdowns where he throws everyone under the bus for not trying to get the ball enough.  Like I said above, I think TO's problems are actually serious and they extend beyond football, but the point is that no matter the cause  of them, these special pl;ays are only beiong run to make sure TO is feeling he is getting his "fair share", regardless of the game being played on the field or the situation.

Badmike wrote:Likewise with Williams...you have here a guy who is big enough to outjump the opposition on a pass in the endzone and you completely ignore that ability....you know, like what's his name, that dude in the Hall of Fame, oh yeh, Michael Irvin.... :roll:


I also think you maybe overestimating Williams ability.  He is a decent reciever, but to be honest, I don't think he is much better than Crayton and I can't beleive how much JJ paid to get him from Detroit. Williams has yet to show in Detroit or now Dallas that he has the ability to consitantly make plays.


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:52 am 
 

bombadil wrote:Having said that, though, I also agree that there's something amiss with Romo.  In the game against the Steelers (fucking awesome team, eh?), did you guys notice his eyes were all puffy and he had that deer in the headlights look about him like he hadn't slept all night and was a pace or two behind everything?


I didn't notice it personally, but then again, seeing guys like James Harrison and Lamar Woodley on the other side of the line of scrimage might have had something to do with that.  :lol:


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:54 am 
 

Yeah, those guys are having an awesome season.  I can't wait to see them set the SB sack record next year...

Speaking of which, anybody know who holds the current record?  Was it that pair of Cowboys linemen who shared MVP for SB XII against Denver?


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:18 pm 
 

bombadil wrote:Yeah, those guys are having an awesome season.  I can't wait to see them set the SB sack record next year...

Speaking of which, anybody know who holds the current record?  Was it that pair of Cowboys linemen who shared MVP for SB XII against Denver?



Randy White and Harvey Martin.  Man, do I miss those guys....!  But Demarcus Ware is poised on the edge of studness...he leads the league in sacks and is still learning the game.  

The official superbowl record is 3, held by quite a few players, but that record has only been kept since Superbowl XVII (huh???)  I'll have to rewatch my DVD but I believe Martin and White combined for five or six.

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:50 pm 
 

bombadil wrote:I agree that Owens has problems, serious problems, related to vanity and egocentrism.  This reminds me of the time he worked out on his front lawn in front of reporters during his tiff with the Eagles.  It's all about attention and adoration for him.


I agree 100% with that statement.  T.O. is not a team player regardless of what he has said to the media in the past.  He blames all of the teams problems on everyone but himself.  He did it with the 49ers and also with the Eagles.  I think most people knew it was only a matter of time before the same crap started happening in Dallas.

As for T.O. being mentally unstable....I'm not an expert by any means but him crying after last years loss to the Giants in the NFC Divisional playoff game pretty much cemented it for me that he needs professional help.  Calling Emmitt Smith out during an interview didnt help either.  A current Cowboy player dissing one of the most beloved former Cowboys of all time doesnt help his credibility.

If Witten gets more catches in Sunday's game than T.O. does and Dallas loses, I expect that T.O. will either out Romo and Witten as gay lovers or racists....or both.  :wink:


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:35 pm 
 

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Randy White and Harvey Martin.  Man, do I miss those guys....!  But Demarcus Ware is poised on the edge of studness...he leads the league in sacks and is still learning the game.  

The official superbowl record is 3, held by quite a few players, but that record has only been kept since Superbowl XVII (huh???)  I'll have to rewatch my DVD but I believe Martin and White combined for five or six.

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Sounds about right.  I was a HUGE Broncos fan back then...that one still hurts.  Didn't Morton throw 5 picks in that game?  Seems like he was either on his back or throwing picks.  Imagine the backstory too.  He and Staubach were forced to play rotating QBs on the Cowboys for at least one season, weren't they?  I think Morton was pretty bitter about that.


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:22 pm 
 

OK, I know this is football season and all but just when you thought the New York Yankees couldnt spend any more money they up and do this:

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8932 ... l?MSNHPHMA

First C.C. Sabathia and now A.J. Burnett.  And there is a possibility that they might also be after Ben Sheets?  If they do land Sheets a lot of "experts" will be expecting the Yankees to once again make it to the World Series.  But they sure are banking a lot of money on them staying healthy.  Sheets is hurt every year.  Burnett has spent a lot of time on the DL as well.  And they will be lucky if Sabathia's arm doesnt fall off after the rigorous last month he spent in Milwaukee.  And even if it doesnt, Yankees fans better hope that C.C. doesnt fold under the pressure of being a baseball player in New York.


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:06 pm 
 

Kingofpain89 wrote:OK, I know this is football season and all but just when you thought the New York Yankees couldnt spend any more money they up and do this:

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8932 ... l?MSNHPHMA

First C.C. Sabathia and now A.J. Burnett.  And there is a possibility that they might also be after Ben Sheets?  If they do land Sheets a lot of "experts" will be expecting the Yankees to once again make it to the World Series.  But they sure are banking a lot of money on them staying healthy.  Sheets is hurt every year.  Burnett has spent a lot of time on the DL as well.  And they will be lucky if Sabathia's arm doesnt fall off after the rigorous last month he spent in Milwaukee.  And even if it doesnt, Yankees fans better hope that C.C. doesnt fold under the pressure of being a baseball player in New York.



Can anyone really be a Yankees fan anymore? The absolute most loathed organization in the universe, IMO.  And has anything been sweeter than the Yankees, spending as much as every team in baseball combined, coming up short every year???  I swear the height of my baseball season yearly is when the Yankees get the knock out punch, usually from some team paying a 10th of their payroll, and hearing the whining and excuse making of the Yanks players and the spoiled fan base.  That, and seeing the very hateable A-Fraud continue to avoid a ring.

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:23 pm 
 

Damn! Toronto loses yet another good pitcher to the Yanks!  :evil:


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